Below is a transcript taken from Chris Rosebrough’s radio show podcast Fighting For The Faith Radio podcast which was originally broadcast on Wednesday May 27th 2009, which you can subscribe to iTunes. I highly recommend you do this if you want to develop discernment. 

Here is the video link for this transcript >

Segment – [00:49:45 – 00:53:02]

Chris Rosebrough, “Alright moving along here in today’s news. Let’s see here. You know I am going to do the T.D. Jakes one. T.D. Jakes those of who think he is some great powerful Christian pastor. He is not. He is a Modalist. He doesn’t believe in the doctrine of the Trinity. That makes him a heretic.

But he was recently fielding questions and somebody who was a Muslim asked him a question about inner faith and relations and things like that and the question came up as to whether or not people from other faiths go to heaven and so you want to hear T.D. Jakes answer to this. If those of you who are thinking that this a fine Christian man and that he really needs to be getting in front of other people. They need to listen to what T.D. Jakes has to offer. Uh….no here we go….”

Radio Show host, “This is Annette with us from Portland, Oregon.”

Annette, “Hi thanks for taking my call.

Radio Show host, “Sure….”

Annette, “I’m a Muslim here in Portland. I’m part of a Shiite community. And we had a wonderful interface dialogue last weekend with a local Unitarian church. And I would like to ask you please to speak about concrete experiences you’ve had as far as interfaith dialogue goes. And also would like to ask you, do you feel that only Christians could hope to enter Heaven?”

Bishop T.D. Jakes, “Very great question. When it comes to interfaith experiences, I am currently serving by the appointment of former President Bush and President Clinton, as co-chair of an interfaith advisory committee to help people get back up on their feet.

And we do have on the board Muslims, Catholics, a Jewish Rabbi, Baptists, Methodists, Pentecostals across the board. And we are working together very effectively because we all care about common goals. We have our distinct theologies and our own ideologies but there are common grounds that we can work together very effectively in many, many cases.

When it comes to Heaven, I try to leave that up to God.”

Chris Rosebrough, “What when it there is a Shiite Muslim girl who is talking to you, she has asked you a question and you say that when it comes to heaven you leave that up to God? If you were a Christian pastor wouldn’t you think that your obligation would be to proclaim salvation in Christ alone? Doesn’t scripture say that…..

Acts 4 v 12

12 There is no other name given under heaven by which men must be saved.

Just a question…..”

Bishop T.D. Jakes, “I certainly believe that Christianity is right, but when it comes down to the final test–who goes and who doesn’t go–Jesus said, Other sheep have I who are not of this fold…..”

Chris Rosebrough, “Ugh man Jesus said other sheep. He might as well be a Mormon. Jesus said other sheep I have that are not of this fold (John 10 v 16). He was talking about the Gentiles T.D. Jakes…..”

Bishop T.D. Jakes, “Them also must I bring. I will let Him identify who those sheep are and I stay out of the conversation.”

Chris Rosebrough, “So there you have it a complete cop out on the part of T.D. Jakes. I am telling you that guy is as phoney as a three dollar bill. I do detect that I will be having to do a T.D. Jakes sermon review before too long here at Fighting for the Faith.

If those of you who are familiar with his works would like to send me suggestions for a good T.D. Jakes sermon review, would love to get the links on that. I would love hear what you think I should be reviewing there. It just saves me a little bit of time. Oh man so there you have it.”


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